An edited extract from the YouTube: "Define the left as having two core ideas or goals or things that sustain them.
One is the desire for total emancipation that is continuous freedom from all bonds not continuously chosen and so you see this in everything that the left wants to be able to do everything that the people should be allowed to do whatever they want to with no restrictions whether from society or legally. Total emancipation combined with something that actually philosophically sits a little bit uneasily with that which is [two] forced egalitarianism total equality for everybody.
The left's theory has always been since the Garden of Eden that these two things combined will lead to a Utopia. The Utopia part is very important because otherwise it's just policy prescriptions if you don't believe that the these things will lead you to Utopia then you're not nearly as aggressive in your pursuit of them. But if you believe and you see this most visibly with Communism which is merely one branch off the left tree if you believe that communism or leftist utopianism is achievable then no price, especially a price paid by other people, is too great to pay for that. So that makes the left evil kind of in its its core."
In a word which has variable meanings 'Egregore' is a concept in Western esotericism of a non-physical entity or thoughtform that arises from the collective thoughts and emotions of a distinct group of individuals. Some people think that sufficiently strong belief will make an Egregore a real thing.
So I guess that committed Lefties think that believing strongly enough in Utopia will magically square individual freedom with community egalitarianism. So not necessarily evil, or incompetent, but deluded?
Excellent stuff. Do you know who the American (?academic) is? Worth following up, I think.
Two points struck me quite forcefully there. The first is how only a relatively small percentage - around 5% - are committed ideologues. The rest are just easily led. This seems to be entirely correct. All those woke ladies of a certain age would be out burning ethnic minorities if it were fashionable to do so.
The second is about the costs of holding such views. Starmer, Milliamp, Rayner, etc. are not going to let this go until it really hurts them. A decline in the general standard of living is not going to bother anyone who has Lord Alli providing them with freebies. That's why we need them to be in fear of their lives, to be heckled wherever they go, and to reflect on why they need constant police protection. We need to use stress to turn their neurotic need into a full-blown anxiety that prevents them from doing the job.
Jolly japes at the daily Scep: Cummings is more likely to get partisan hacks than experts-techsperts if he abolishes the permanent Civil Service: and then the U.K. will be administered by Douglas Adams’s hairdressers – as well as being offered leadership by them. (Johnson: “Get haircut done”; Sunak: “Comb out to help out”; Starmer: “My father was a quiffmaker.”).
DJ - to my mind the problem is that evil and deluded can be described either way and it still fits what we observe. Which suggests that politically, evil and deluded are the same thing until we feed in enforcement. Which leaves Ed Miliband more evil than deluded, but then he may be deluded about the enforcement, seeing it as guidance towards Utopia.
Perhaps we have to leave such issues as multifaceted, with an imaginary Utopia as our guide. If there is a Utopian aspect, then something bad is going on, whatever the mental state of those pushing it.
Sam - it's Charles Haywood, but I don't know much about him. Wokipedia describes him as "far right", so he's tough on nonsense I imagine.
Yes, the small number of people and costs imposed on others struck me too. That's just what is going on here in the UK, even to the extent of knowing pensioners will die this winter. At the moment, Starmer and his immediate cronies seem to be so unpopular that fear of abject failure may have some impact. The media do matter to them and to the party.
dearieme - hairdressers do seem to know what is going on locally and what people are saying about media stories. Taxi drivers and bus drivers too. We could do worse.
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An edited extract from the YouTube:
"Define the left as having two core ideas or goals or things that sustain them.
One is the desire for total emancipation that is continuous freedom from all bonds not continuously chosen and so you see this in everything that the left wants to be able to do everything that the people should be allowed to do whatever they want to with no restrictions whether from society or legally. Total emancipation combined with something that actually philosophically sits a little bit uneasily with that which is [two] forced egalitarianism total equality for everybody.
The left's theory has always been since the Garden of Eden that these two things combined will lead to a Utopia. The Utopia part is very important because otherwise it's just policy prescriptions if you don't believe that the these things will lead you to Utopia then you're not nearly as aggressive in your pursuit of them. But if you believe and you see this most visibly with Communism which is merely one branch off the left tree if you believe that communism or leftist utopianism is achievable then no price, especially a price paid by other people, is too great to pay for that. So that makes the left evil kind of in its its core."
In a word which has variable meanings 'Egregore' is a concept in Western esotericism of a non-physical entity or thoughtform that arises from the collective thoughts and emotions of a distinct group of individuals. Some people think that sufficiently strong belief will make an Egregore a real thing.
So I guess that committed Lefties think that believing strongly enough in Utopia will magically square individual freedom with community egalitarianism. So not necessarily evil, or incompetent, but deluded?
Excellent stuff. Do you know who the American (?academic) is? Worth following up, I think.
Two points struck me quite forcefully there. The first is how only a relatively small percentage - around 5% - are committed ideologues. The rest are just easily led. This seems to be entirely correct. All those woke ladies of a certain age would be out burning ethnic minorities if it were fashionable to do so.
The second is about the costs of holding such views. Starmer, Milliamp, Rayner, etc. are not going to let this go until it really hurts them. A decline in the general standard of living is not going to bother anyone who has Lord Alli providing them with freebies. That's why we need them to be in fear of their lives, to be heckled wherever they go, and to reflect on why they need constant police protection. We need to use stress to turn their neurotic need into a full-blown anxiety that prevents them from doing the job.
Jolly japes at the daily Scep: Cummings is more likely to get partisan hacks than experts-techsperts if he abolishes the permanent Civil Service: and then the U.K. will be administered by Douglas Adams’s hairdressers – as well as being offered leadership by them. (Johnson: “Get haircut done”; Sunak: “Comb out to help out”; Starmer: “My father was a quiffmaker.”).
DJ - to my mind the problem is that evil and deluded can be described either way and it still fits what we observe. Which suggests that politically, evil and deluded are the same thing until we feed in enforcement. Which leaves Ed Miliband more evil than deluded, but then he may be deluded about the enforcement, seeing it as guidance towards Utopia.
Perhaps we have to leave such issues as multifaceted, with an imaginary Utopia as our guide. If there is a Utopian aspect, then something bad is going on, whatever the mental state of those pushing it.
Sam - it's Charles Haywood, but I don't know much about him. Wokipedia describes him as "far right", so he's tough on nonsense I imagine.
Yes, the small number of people and costs imposed on others struck me too. That's just what is going on here in the UK, even to the extent of knowing pensioners will die this winter. At the moment, Starmer and his immediate cronies seem to be so unpopular that fear of abject failure may have some impact. The media do matter to them and to the party.
dearieme - hairdressers do seem to know what is going on locally and what people are saying about media stories. Taxi drivers and bus drivers too. We could do worse.
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