tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post9110563990886612362..comments2024-03-28T19:27:59.772+00:00Comments on A K Haart: White collar robotsA K Haarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-61035895408560315662014-10-17T13:26:08.471+01:002014-10-17T13:26:08.471+01:00James - thanks, I met one or two.James - thanks, I met one or two.A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-86765077049085403712014-10-16T22:12:48.868+01:002014-10-16T22:12:48.868+01:00process-driven people are not known for an unequiv...process-driven people are not known for an unequivocal reliance on ethical standards<br /><br />Nicely put.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-28664684585971374352014-10-16T19:41:44.645+01:002014-10-16T19:41:44.645+01:00Demetrius - it's also the notion that professi...Demetrius - it's also the notion that professional managers should be able to manage anything. The attitude had become common by the time I left but it wasn't working well at all.<br /><br />Sam - I must read Max Weber, but there is so much out there.<br /><br />Processes could easily be stories and possibly always were. They are also like manuals which are supposed to cover all eventualities. They never do this but they seem to create a sense of security.A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-84685186704483769612014-10-16T18:29:43.179+01:002014-10-16T18:29:43.179+01:00Excellent post, and also Demetrius' contributi...Excellent post, and also Demetrius' contribution.<br /><br />I'm wondering where the process-mania comes from. I'm reminded of Max Weber's ideas on the inevitability of bureaucracy and rationality, because these make things more efficient. But I have half an idea that this is also about narrative, and our love of telling stories. Processes are like big stories which we help to write and sustain, and which define who we are. The trouble is, they are now so large and all-pervasive that we are losing the ability to look around their edges, so to speak, and to think without them.Sam Vegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05978971199859845931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-85081275657420017022014-10-16T14:21:38.949+01:002014-10-16T14:21:38.949+01:00Much, if not nearly all the process is driven by t...Much, if not nearly all the process is driven by the notions etc. bedded in modern management theory. This pretends to "science" but isn't. Also, it is largely in the hands of people who have done other things rather than science or even engineering. It is my theory that old empires often collapse from within because of too many rules and too many rulers detached from either reality or formal disciplines such as science.Demetriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198549581667363991noreply@blogger.com