tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post481234023552816368..comments2024-03-28T19:27:59.772+00:00Comments on A K Haart: The RuinA K Haarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-53261826610644000512011-10-18T09:14:44.721+01:002011-10-18T09:14:44.721+01:00JH - yes it is, the scholars who achieve these thi...JH - yes it is, the scholars who achieve these things deserve more recognition.<br /><br />SV - I wasn't suggesting complacency and I agree with what you say.A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-42195778906345221982011-10-17T22:20:39.155+01:002011-10-17T22:20:39.155+01:00"SV - you may be right, but the hollowing out..."SV - you may be right, but the hollowing out process also has its dangers."<br /><br />Too right, and apologies if I seemed at all complacent about it. I would rather start again from the Dark Ages than watch the UK become a museum for Rich Chinese, or a Muslim state. There is a small measure of dignity in growing our own turnips, and none at all in selling our culture in job lots.Sam Vegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05978971199859845931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-22311654230433864962011-10-17T22:02:51.225+01:002011-10-17T22:02:51.225+01:00One of the most remarkable parts of it is that we ...One of the most remarkable parts of it is that we have a translation.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-34648859565717195302011-10-17T21:24:07.973+01:002011-10-17T21:24:07.973+01:00rogerh - I think people do see these things coming...rogerh - I think people do see these things coming, but internal vested interests have to succumb to external interests. They can't change by an act of will.A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-22882568471766838572011-10-17T20:14:28.890+01:002011-10-17T20:14:28.890+01:00I agree about complexity, did those of old see it...I agree about complexity, did those of old see it coming ? Who bailed out first? I suppose the young might emigrate. Then how long will it take to become labour-rate competitive - for I really do doubt we could ever survive by cleverer than the rest of the world.<br /><br />When all you have is a one-act-pony it really does not pay to let the pony die, it is so tiresome to build up a new act.rogerhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-43271933200875234082011-10-17T20:01:03.342+01:002011-10-17T20:01:03.342+01:00D - it has. I'd like to think we know how to p...D - it has. I'd like to think we know how to prevent these things, but I'm not so sure.<br /><br />SV - you may be right, but the hollowing out process also has its dangers. To me, complexity seems to be a real issue. I'm not convinced that we know why things go wrong and what to do about it.A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-16086625802652634842011-10-17T17:51:58.619+01:002011-10-17T17:51:58.619+01:00I don't think this type of collapse back into ...I don't think this type of collapse back into nature is possible for great modern civilisations; overpopulation and globalisation have put a stop to it. Civilisations are more likely to be re-colonised from within, hollowing out and transforming and becoming alien to the indigenous population before their very eyes. We get a glimpse of this when we see some old boy gazing blankly at the retail park that used to be a huge factory. Or a couple on TV trying to understand why it no longer pays to work hard and pay your bills...Sam Vegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05978971199859845931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-39567552483905456322011-10-17T13:40:24.540+01:002011-10-17T13:40:24.540+01:00It can happen and it has happened, many many, time...It can happen and it has happened, many many, times over.Demetriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198549581667363991noreply@blogger.com