tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post8267189881227275579..comments2024-03-28T19:27:59.772+00:00Comments on A K Haart: Pagan PowerA K Haarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-41257675704159801682011-10-18T20:23:34.917+01:002011-10-18T20:23:34.917+01:00rogerh - agreed, dykes and barriers, block and hid...rogerh - agreed, dykes and barriers, block and hide. It's a huge irony that green taxes are more disinvestment than investment, more wasteful than what currently goes into landfill. <br /><br />SV - Good points. "Sustainability takes the place of the categorical imperative, or the utilitarian calculus." It does and I can well believe that some did foresee it.<br /><br />JH - My use of "worship" is purely in terms of observed behaviour. I admit the similarities though.A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-75208708124625940232011-10-18T15:28:21.106+01:002011-10-18T15:28:21.106+01:00although worshipping a deity such as Gaia isn'...although worshipping a deity such as Gaia isn't what they actually do.<br /><br />Oh yes they do:<br /><br />http://nourishingobscurity.blogspot.com/2008/02/greens-strong-groups-of-friends.htmlJames Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-50523337127406821712011-10-18T10:52:22.511+01:002011-10-18T10:52:22.511+01:00Lots of very important and thought-provoking point...Lots of very important and thought-provoking points in your post.<br /><br />I think the best attitude towards religiosity based upon ecological awareness is to watch it from a safe distance so as to preserve one's own mental balance. What they believe in is strange, but not <i>very</i> strange, considering that their grandparents probably believed stuff that is less plausible and more profound in its implications. These people felt a vacuum, and unwisely grasped at something in order to fill it.<br /><br />In addition, there are lots of people for whom "ecology" has become the grounding principle of morality, without them adopting metaphysical views. Sustainability takes the place of the categorical imperative, or the utilitarian calculus. I remember back in the 1970s my philosophy professor trying to articulate something like this - a feeling that he was beginning to pick up from conferences and the literature. Looking back, he seems to have been remarkably prescient.<br /><br />As for <br /><br />"climate change hysteria was always seen by hard-nosed policy-makers as a convenient if rather shaky peg on which to hang energy-security policies."<br /><br />this is spot on. Huhne will shortly be showing how shaky that particular peg is. Does he really believe what he says he believes, or is his role merely to ramp up public concern about how we are going to keep the lights on? Once the lights start going out, every other socio-economic problem will rise up to confront the government.Sam Vegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05978971199859845931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-4419283533500525322011-10-18T07:22:28.560+01:002011-10-18T07:22:28.560+01:00Those who make things happen, those who watch thi...Those who make things happen, those who watch things happening and those who never realised anything happened at all.<br /><br />Current policy is to ignore the 'problem' and if necessary build dykes and barriers. All of which is post the next 10 elections. Something for our children to do. Oh, and will those green taxes be invested? - fergeddit!<br /><br />Right now green religion does not buy votes, but other religions do - and bring in the campaign funding. The long-term is 'what happens after lunch'.rogerhnoreply@blogger.com