tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post5712361805649415302..comments2024-03-28T19:27:59.772+00:00Comments on A K Haart: The Piltdown Climate MonsterA K Haarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-86657822574150283492014-01-13T15:50:28.290+00:002014-01-13T15:50:28.290+00:00Sobers - I agree, the climate may decide. If it b...Sobers - I agree, the climate may decide. If it begins to warm again though, then they will claim to have known all along that it would and the show will be back on the road.<br /><br />Dan - welcome and good points. I think the internet is showing us in an accelerated way how much of what we took for granted just doesn't work as we thought.<br /><br />James - at this rate a year or two may decide it.A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-19493222729913256392014-01-13T15:07:13.186+00:002014-01-13T15:07:13.186+00:00Feels like we're now in global cooling.Feels like we're now in global cooling.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-52969435910637002092014-01-13T14:41:54.233+00:002014-01-13T14:41:54.233+00:00What I think is happening is that over time Wester...What I think is happening is that over time Western civilisation is slowly developing big organisational systems, exploring them and discovering the failure modes inherent in them.<br /><br />Back in the twentieth century we saw the failure mode of gold standard currencies, and the problems with monarchy/dictatorship political systems (they only work well when the political system doesn't need to do much organising).<br /><br />Now we're discovering one of the failure modes of democratic political systems, and also of the scientific peer review system. Peer review works only if the science is sufficiently well developed that charlatans may be spotted easily, and democratic politicians will gleefully try to save the world if given a chance.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02618328278732100203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-17236446115179584152014-01-13T14:17:15.736+00:002014-01-13T14:17:15.736+00:00If it dies (and its a big if, as other suggest it ...If it dies (and its a big if, as other suggest it may well just mutate into some other way of controlling people) it will go out with a whimper not a bang. No-one who is involved at the moment is going to admit they were wrong. There will be no massive collective mea culpa. The consequences are too dire for the individuals. Can you imagine the public rage if they found out they had been lied to, and fleeced out of taxes, for the last 15 years or so, and now those responsible just say 'Terribly sorry, it was all nonsense'? People would demand heads on plates, and there's a lot of candidates.<br /><br />No, it will end slowly, as the current batch of 'scientists' and politicians leave the public arena, and are replaced by new faces not in hock to the past. That is sadly the most likely outcome, unless we hit a undeniable global cooling event within the next decade. Then all bets are off. If the lights and heating are going off due to having closed all the coal fired power stations and the bird mincers can't cope, and demand is through the roof, and OAPs are freezing to death in their houses, and food prices are through the roof due to failed crops, then those responsible better look out. They are going to need good lawyers.Sobershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11407417389022146963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-70532150325429556532014-01-13T11:56:59.716+00:002014-01-13T11:56:59.716+00:00Sam - "Our best brains are working on it now&...Sam - "Our best brains are working on it now" Crikey, you really know how to worry a chap.<br /><br />Woodsy - yes I think that's where it is all heading. Micro-managing everything we consume.<br /><br />Sackers - probably so. It's all so absurd, it must be a cover for something and the political classes know where the blame will go if it cools off.<br /><br />WY - yes I agree - it looks like paganism to me. We aren't headed in a secular direction, but a pagan direction. <br /><br />A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-27006670368976239162014-01-13T09:50:14.739+00:002014-01-13T09:50:14.739+00:00"We congregate around myths – have done for t..."We congregate around myths – have done for thousands of years."<br /><br />Indeed.<br /><br />Global Warming is a religion.<br /><br />Obvious when you think about it:<br /><br />- it's based on faith, not facts<br />- it has its high priests and its zealots, who may not be challenged<br />- it pursues infidels with great vigour<br />- rational argument has no effect on it, because it's not rational to begin with<br />- it requires pointless but painful sacrifices [windmills]<br />- it gets into bed with the civil powers and they prop each other up.<br /><br />Yup, ticks all the boxes: it's a religion.Weekend Yachtsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262853091154005651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-8047475570562223342014-01-13T09:47:36.184+00:002014-01-13T09:47:36.184+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Weekend Yachtsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262853091154005651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-1912859186640324492014-01-13T09:41:54.471+00:002014-01-13T09:41:54.471+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Weekend Yachtsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262853091154005651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-54341369689301907592014-01-13T07:18:02.351+00:002014-01-13T07:18:02.351+00:00Piltdown makes a very good insulating material for...Piltdown makes a very good insulating material for duvets, the problem is catching enough pilts to pluck.<br /><br />Climate change could be a distraction so that we don't notice that our governments aren't taking effective and consistent action on a large number of other issues. <br /><br />Maybe it's also a cover for the actions they are taking that benefit themselves one way or another, e.g. the transfer of polluting productive capacity to the East, facilitated by dodgy carbon trading data and allowances.Sackersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17284329249862764601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-20192147782772940702014-01-12T23:58:32.072+00:002014-01-12T23:58:32.072+00:00I think he may mutate into the 'waste and sust...I think he may mutate into the 'waste and sustainability' monster. All to do with reducing our use of resources including energy - which keeps the co2 monster in the scheme. Anything you buy will be taxed according to the build material scarcity and energy to manufacture, and you won't be allowed to throw anything away unless you pay heavily for the priveledge.Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2481298417819219839.post-39633139978879916572014-01-12T22:30:43.054+00:002014-01-12T22:30:43.054+00:00The monster mutates. I remember him being called ...The monster mutates. I remember him being called "Global Warming", but now he has morphed into "Climate Change". Expect him to change soon into "Human Activity Risk Nexus", or somesuch. Before you know it, he'll be less of a monster and more of a slight pest that we need to keep an eye on. Our best brains are working on it now. Sam Vegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05978971199859845931noreply@blogger.com